Remaining Challenges to Providing Safe Abortion in South Africa: Q&A with Pathfinder's Zandile Bakaco

South African Safe Abortion

“At Pathfinder, we have always stood steadfast in our conviction that women should have the right to safe abortion. Today, we are proud to stand strong with our sister agencies in affirming our conviction and support to the International Campaign for Women’s Right to Safe Abortion."
- Pathfinder President Purnima Mane
In 1996, South Africa passed the Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Act, one of the most liberal abortion policies in the world. By law, South Africa allows "termination of pregnancy," or abortion up to the twelfth week of pregnancy. It also allows abortion from the thirteenth to the twentieth week under most circumstances, including rape, incest, or endangerment of the mother or child's physical, psychological, mental, or socioeconomic conditions. For serious medical reasons, including endangerment of the life of the mother, terminations after twenty weeks are allowed.

Despite the country's liberal abortion laws, challenges still persist in ensuring women's rights to safe abortion are actualized. Common barriers include limited access to abortion services due to stigma in the community and the public health system, limited knowledge about South Africa's abortion laws, and the absence of youth-friendly services.

Want to learn more about Pathfinder's work on safe abortion? Check out this new blog including voices from our colleagues and friends in Mozambique who are busy preparing for September 28th, the Global Day of Action for Safe, Legal Abortion.


In honor of the Global Day of Action for Safe, Legal Abortion, we asked Pathfinder's Project Coordinator and Nurse Mentor Zandile Bakaco a few questions about ongoing challenges to Pathfinder's work to provide safe and legal abortion in South Africa.

How you first became involved in reproductive health and the abortion movement in South Africa?
Soon after graduating, I went to work in Cape Town for a reproductive health clinic as a professional nurse. I was sent to training for a certificate in sexual and reproductive health by the Western Cape Department of Health. It was in this training that I first became aware that abortion is actually part of the sexual and reproductive health package and that it is legal and is the right of a woman to decide to terminate her pregnancy.

Before my training I met with a number of women who requested information and referrals for abortion and most of the time we would refer them verbally to two hospitals within the province or to nearby clinics. Most women did not have the means to afford private abortion rates.  I think some used illegal, unsafe methods as they were desperate and others were left with no choice but to continue with their pregnancies.

Shortly after the training, I left the clinic to work for an NGO that was providing free abortion services. That was the first time I worked directly on abortion-related issues. Today, I am a Project Coordinator and Nurse Mentor for Pathfinder International. My job involves site assessments, setting up abortion units, continuous mentoring and coaching of nurses, and facilitating workshops.

What is the most rewarding part of your job?
The most rewarding part of my job is when I see attitudes change from the staff in the sites that we support after the workshops and seeing that change maintained. This change is evident during our visits to the sites.  Also rewarding is when we hear positive reports from the Department of Health about the services provided by Pathfinder-trained nurses. My job is also rewarded by the excellent feedback that we get from the clients themselves.

There are also clients who recognize us when we meet and still appreciate the excellent service we provided to them. Attitudes of abortion providers that Pathfinder has worked with have also changed for the better and are able to positively influence other abortion providers at sites in which Pathfinder is not working.
The Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Act, or CTOP Act, is the South African abortion law that allows abortion on demand up to the twelfth week of pregnancy, under certain circumstances from the thirteenth to the twentieth week, and only due to serious medical reasons after the twentieth week. In South Africa, abortion is often referred to as "termination of pregnancy
South Africa’s abortion environment is pretty unique, with liberal abortion laws, but limited access to abortion and knowledge about abortion. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
There is limited knowledge about abortion in the sense that most clients and even nurses still do not fully understand the content of the Choice on Termination of Pregnancy Act, the national abortion law.

Some professional nurses still impose their beliefs on clients and even try to persuade or counsel clients against the client’s own decision. Pathfinder’s Value Clarifications Workshop touches on personal beliefs vs. professional responsibilities to try to change these norms. 


What are some ways in which abortion rights are still impeded in South Africa?
There is very limited access to abortion services after the second trimester because few nurses and doctors are willing to provide those services. Many trained abortion providers are unwilling to provide services for personal reasons or for fear of being persecuted within the community due to resistant stigma around the procedure.

Limited information about abortion services sometimes leads people to believe that those seeking abortion services have committed a crime, so there is lingering stigma around women who have received abortions.

In South Africa, Pathfinder works to ensure young people can access safe abortion services. What are some of major barriers youth face?
South Africa’s Eastern Cape Department of Health has seen a need for adolescent and youth friendly services to be offered in clinics and has a strategy in place for all the provinces that includes targets for to have a certain number of clinics assessed and recognized as adolescent and youth friendly each year.

Although nurses and health care providers at Pathfinder sites have been trained on provision of youth friendly services, this component has not been fully incorporated into services offered at public facilities. Young people not catered for and are treated the same as adults. There are a very limited number of abortion providers trained on how to provide adolescent and youth friendly services.

At times, when young people’s needs go unattended, they do not access health care services as early as they are required/ expected to do. That means we see a very high number of young women requesting abortion services when they are already on second and, sometimes, third trimester of their pregnancy. In addition, abortion services are often offered at public facilities between 7am and 4pm on weekdays. That makes it incredibly difficult for young people to access these services without interrupting their school program.

Youth friendly services means a young person can walk in and walk out feeling good about themselves, provided with knowledge and information, treated with respect, dignity and provided with the service they were seeking.What should youth friendly services look like?
A lot still needs to be done to address young people’s needs including training of health care providers, ensuring youth friendly services are available and convenient at public health facilities, and informing youth about the services available to them to encourage making informed decisions about their health.

Providing youth friendly services is about the attitude of the provider and understanding the challenges and needs of a young person. It is about creating an enabling environment for young people to freely express themselves without fear of being judged, fear of being chased away, and fear of being rejected.

Youth friendly services means a young person can walk in and walk out feeling good about themselves, provided with knowledge and information, treated with respect, dignity and provided with the service they were seeking.

What’s one thing you think people would be surprised to know about your work in South Africa?
That it is not smooth sailing. It involves a lot of negotiations. We meet a number of barriers, that we are also judged as we advocate and support the needs of women and youth of our country. 

For more information about Pathfinder's work on safe abortion in South Africa, please visit the Expanding and Sustaining Safe Abortion Services project page.

Country: South Africa
Focus Area: Abortion

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He pulled the stone out of his pocket and dropped it after its trajectory, calculating fall rates against the wind. He repeated the experiment several times. Then he pulled back on the summit. In minutes, Gambalie would jump out of this place, plunging nearly a third of a mile and speeds up the heart-stopping 120 kilometers per hour before setting up his parachute 1,500 feet above the valley. He BASE jumped from the east face of El Cap more than a dozen times, but the western, or Salathe, face a greater challenge. To avoid spanking side of the wall, I had to clean a large boulder protruding kate spade outlet 100 meters below the summit, and then immediately set sail. Gambalie made ??this one jump - the only person to do so. With a friend called Andy West help Gambalie done at the last minute equipment check. He walked to and fro from the edge, surface everywhere. Finally, as the first low light touched off the northern peaks of the valley, approached the edge, enjoying those last seconds before on what he called his "moment of commitment." "Fly like a beagle, brother," West joked, as Gambalie blesnu thumbs-up. Then, taking three steps forward, he rounded chicken-head invalid granite: move, chest high, come back slightly arched. Frank Gambalie began its decline. Even among the extreme world of the hardest-core, BASE jumping - the acronym stands for building, antenna, span and earth - the only sport that can go too far. Regular practice only 1,500 people worldwide - mostly experienced parachutists - BASE jumping is claimed up to 40 lives in the past two decades. Although technically not illegal, authorities believe BASE, or "object", jumping misuse of public space, as well as the techniques used to access the jumpers starting point - sneaking over the walls, jumping fences, climbing scaffolding - amounts intrusion. 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Then, in February, burnt and mutilated bodies of three women tourists were found in the penalty area park, crashes news networks and led to one of the largest manhunts in the history of Mariposa County. And on July 22, decapitated body Michael Kors Outlet Online naturalist Joie Ruth Armstrong was found near her isolated cabin deep in the park. It is 15 days after the lifeless, algae-covered body Frank Gambalie is pulled from Merced River. At 28, Frank Gambalie III was one of the best BASE jumpers in the world. He was fearless, ready to jump to any object: alpine cliff, 800 feet high bridge, a Gothic cathedral, and even New York City's Chrysler Building. Known for its daring aerial maneuvers, Gambalie adds glamor sport previously defined as much for its secrecy and for risk. Darkly handsome, with olive skin, a shock of black hair and constant gleam in his eye, Gambalie figure adorned pages of great climbing and skydiving magazines. 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"It was a terrific A sales rep would pop in Frank lane and suddenly, there was Frank doing all this great stuff - .. And he uses the equipment of competitors' Filippino laughs. "Obviously you want to steal some of that for myself." By early 1999 Gambalie they bring in at least a dozen of the most sponsorship in adventure sports, including Oakley, Obermeyer, K2, Nike and Red Bull. But for all his success, he continued to be tested against all major way. However, if Gambalie is compelled to attack deaths, he constructed each jump minimize your risk. Among the hundreds of hours of video footage Gambalie, there is footage from the TV show called "extremists" where Gambalie, dressed in a shirt and shorts, overshadowing the 850-meter-high bridge in northern California. As techno hurt in the background, Gambalie jumps backwards, spinning like a gyroscope and perform multiple flips before popping his parachute. A series of brazen, almost recklessly. But Gambalie calm. "I can handle the jump, jump you can control," he says, on Earth, dark eyes staring unblinking at the camera. "It is the government can not control the catch -. This is what scares me." "Go and run" philosophy has been observed in the BASE of the sport began in the late 70s. The ethos is particularly strong in Yosemite, where the Rangers have a reputation for zealously tracking jumpers. michaelkors-outlet-handbags Tales parties sparse, searched vehicles and climbers spied constitute Canon constantly growing anti-Ranger paranoia. The recent death of world-class mountaineers Dan Osman adds especially sad chapter. One extreme sports icon and close friend Gambalie is Osman pioneer dangerous - some would say crazy - jumping rope sport: swinging unbelievable heights by climbing a firm leash on a piece of rock. In November 1998, Osman died in Yosemite after one of his rope snapped during a jump from rock pillars known as the Leaning Tower. Household and BASE jumpers accuse Rangers of "killed" Osman, who spent two weeks before his death in Yosemite prison on various misdemeanor charges. Friends say he got out of confinement badly shaken. They insist Osman was mistreated while in custody, which shook confidence and led him to a critical error in judgment, the most dramatic of his decision to use ropes that are weakened by exposure to a month in the sun and snow. Yosemite authorities deny allegations of abuse, but "the charges" still speaks to the tension between the counterculture and its inhabitants Park Rangers. "Bottom line, there is an aversion us in Yosemite," says Filippino. "It's not a rule, it is a bitter relationship that has been built for so many years." Dan Horner, a special agent in Yosemite, begs to differ. "These guys that get yucks hiding in the forest waiting to be caught," he says. "But we do not have the time, let alone money for overtime, for that." In fact, he argues, Rangers actually catch only 5% of divers each year. Anyway, enough Gambalie jumped in Yosemite to know that he does not want to be among that 5%. And he stayed under the radar until Uthman's death. In contact with Osman over a mobile Kate Spade phone while his friend a fatal fall, Gambalie raced to the park and stayed with the body until rescuers managed to get there. But he feared his heroism has raised its profile among park officials. "Frank was concerned that the Rangers could try to make an example of him, if he was ever caught," says his mother, Ricci Mescola. "Especially after hearing all the stories about how they mistreated Dano." But although Gambalie achieved celebrity status in Yosemite, not distract him from jumping. "Frank was never caught up in Yosemite and it should never be," says hikers and Gambalie friend Dean Fidelman. "And you know, Frank was confident 'No way are we," he would say,' Let me chase - I'll just laugh in your face and jump in the river. ".." Rising 7,569 meters above sea level, El Capitan Everest jump sites. Towering monolithically at the entrance to Yosemite Valley, the transverse dramatically, allowing divers to navigate away from the rock to 18 seconds - a very long freefall - before pulling his release. And the meadows below offers a comfortable drop zone, El Cap is irresistible to divers. So it was that Gambalie, the Salathe face most of all. The Salathe is one of the highest sheer rock in the continental United States, and of its pioneering first jump in 1998 Gambalie dreamed encore. Morning of the 8th Jun, 1999, he got into his blue Subaru wagon and drove to Yosemite, ready to jump again. It was the first time Gambalie returned to the park because Osman died seven months ago. "He was a little scared right after Dano died," says West, who agreed to meet Gambalie at the top of El Cap in the afternoon. "That was weird.'ve Never seen Frankie says he was afraid of anything." Although he was a friend jump Gambalie for years, the West has not seen him for months. Gambalie spent most of the year working on films for sponsors, and it seemed that the West is that his friend has changed. "I remember thinking it was ripe," says West. "He's like a real man - you can tell from the handshake, even a handshake was strong." Gambalie was eager to show the West point of launch, and two walked together toward the precipice. The group of hikers was hanging near the western edge of the face. one, Scott Burk, was a well-known big wall climber who recently became one of the six people successfully free solo of the nose, the highest point in El Cap's. Burk climbing in Yosemite since 1981 and knew most of the BASE guys. "BASE jumpers are simply not like other people," says Burk. "They are like drug addicts, the way some of them operate. The cat-and-mouse with the Rangers was part of it." West was suspicious of Burk, believing that he was the one who tipped off rangers when I was arrested after jumping West 1997 West El Cap is not even supposed to be close to the BASE jumpers.; He is still on trial. Gambalie spent an hour with Burk and other climbers, and then joined the West in thebestcoachstore2013.com their camp after dark. Besides Gambalie and West, Burk and friend were the only people who kampuju on top that night. The sky was not exactly light on 9 June, when Gambalie woke up just before 5:00 Ten minutes later he jumped, thus projecting rock just below the launch and fly away from the wall. He dropped to eight, nine, 10 seconds, disappeared from the West look at three, and then re-appeared, and continues to fall. Finally, after 16 seconds, West heard the crack opening parachute Gambalie and saw his friend, a blot on the horizon, floating toward the valley. Gambalie slid to the west and to the woodshed times, and then suddenly turned almost 180 degrees and zigzagged east, finally landing across from the turnout at the westernmost edge of the meadow El Cap. It was, says West, a clean jump she had ever seen. And then West saw a set of headlights approach the landing area, blinking several times. He assumed that it belonged to a curious passerby. He waited a few minutes, and then returned to the camp to organize your equipment. He turned on the cell phone; named below to arrange a meeting is standard operating procedure after each jump. But Gambalie never called. Strangely, the West thought, but Frank is on the phone so much, maybe the battery died. Or maybe the phone down. You might as well head down, West said that he finished packing, Frank will call when he can. Then, tape the package, he began the long hike back to the valley. It was mid-October at El Cap meadow, just off Northside Drive, about 50 meters from where Frank Gambalie landed on the morning of June 9. Twenty meters south, deep meadow grass turns into a forest, which in turn leads to a bank in Merced River. In the fall, the river is shallow and less than 100 meters across. But in June, Merced is more than six feet deep, raging with 40 degrees of melting snow. Water at this temperature shock body like lightning, sucking his strength before you have time to react. At top speed - about 8 mph - power and volume of the river can trap body within its rush and sweep it downstream. Gambalie landed at the southwestern end of the meadow, and almost immediately Rangers poured it from two directions. He could have given up. Instead, he lowered his parachute, he turned and, louis vuitton as the Rangers reported, blesnu smile. Then he ran into the woods, according to Merced. Later, he made a lot of decisions Gambalie's. It seemed suicidal, almost absurd, for someone known for his meticulousness. "The river is a seasonal escape," says West. "You use it when it is low, after August. Never in peak season. Frank did not know that. Was so good at evading, I doubt I ever thought I would need. If you ask me, he was in a hurry to get to the top before dark, and he slipped on the prep work. " Approaching the right bank, in the area known as the Ribbon Creek, Gambalie threw the rest of your rig, and with an evil smile, he took the Rangers, diving headfirst into the river. The surface was smooth and glassy where he entered, but a little further down the large boulders blocking the rest of the Merced views. To see Gambalie next to Boulder he would have realized that immediately after, fed directly into the river rapids language. As he started to swim across, towards achieving the Rangers, Gambalie paddles grew more urgent. He tried to swim upstream, struggling against the current that pulled him further downstream. Nearing Boulder, Gambalie body went across to the rapids. Rangers watched from the shore as he disappeared behind a rock. It is possible that Gambalie is pushed under as he walked around the rock. It is also possible that, with the heat and strain the jump Chase, hypothermia set in well before he was caught by a rock unconscious. What is known is that the force of the river, made ??of aerated swirl of white water, keep it tucked under within a few seconds of his hitting rapids churned around him like a washing machine. Obstruction in the river, such as rock, increases the pressure even more. If there is a gap under a rock, a person can easily be tucked under and pinned there. Divers call it "strainer." It is, apparently, is what happened Gambalie. For the next month, his body lay submerged in the icy waters Merced to Yosemite divers finally found on July 7, three soccer fields, from where he went in. Until then, Gambalie had dark hair and eyes have lost their color, and his skin, well-preserved in the cold, began to separate from his body. "It was his fatal mistake, not knowing about the rapids," says Jeff Follett, rescue katespadeplaza.com diver who discovered the body. "If he'd gone to a quarter mile upstream, he would have made it. But people drown in Merced even in flat water. Jumps in the river's stupid to do at any moment, any time of year." Initially Gambalie disappearance was treated as a criminal incident. Frightened, West left the park. "I just assumed Frank was not called because his phone was wet or something," he says. "I knew I did not want to be part of this, whatever it was. Did not want to be in jail." From his home near Los Angeles, West waited for word. Several hours passed, and then one day. So far, he is convinced something went wrong, West called Filippino, crying. Filippino never heard West so upset. However, he thought of his desire to invite friends Gambalie mom was premature. But when Gambalie voice mail is full, Filippino knew. "Somewhere in there, I knew it was not there." Rumors circulated around the BASE community: Frank jumped out of the country; injured, perhaps, in the woods; had amnesia. "Nobody believes that to die in the river," says Lottie Aston, Gambalie girl. "If someone would not have survived that is said to Frank. Everyone who knew him knew that. Frank got away with everything." When his body was found, rumors have been replaced by questions. What really happened that morning of 9 June? Yes overzealous Rangers pressure Gambalie in bad decisions? And who warned the Rangers? Is that Burk? (He says no.) One of his friends? Is it fear of being caught that drove Gambalie to the river? 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